Paul Carroll To start us off, what is your overall outlook for the cyber insurance industry? Liz Kim If only we could predict where it's going to go, right? I've been in the cyber insurance industry for many years and I've worked across a lot of different roles. I've been in it as a lawyer, as head of claims for a major insurer, in underwriting, in product development, and as a broker. We’re in a soft market now, but, as with all insurance, the cyber market is cyclical. I think cyber is more cyclical than other lines, for a couple of reasons. First, although there are plenty of disaster scenarios that people talk about in the industry — things like a worldwide AWS outage — we haven't yet really had a true disaster, which would tighten capacity and increase prices. Second, we have new entrants coming into cyber all the time. Because of that constant influx, a lot of their value proposition comes down to nothing more than having the lowest prices. That dynamic drives pricing down more than you'd typically see in other lines of business. That said, companies that maintain underwriting discipline and pair their insurance with meaningful services or technology solutions to reduce digital risks are better positioned to hold pricing than those that are purely insurance plays. My overall outlook? It's always positive — because if it wasn't, I wouldn't still be in cyber after all these years. With the kinds of innovations we're seeing across the industry, it's always going to be an area that drives the market forward. |